http://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/ Switched Comments for Mac vs. PC Verdict http://www.switched.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.switched.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/http://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/Aug 6th 2008 8:17AMhttp://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/http://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/
A good tech will install top of the line hardware. You might pay a little more for your computer, but it's worth it. Manufactures often do not use the best available parts.

You only get the software you want. When you buy from a manufacturer like Dell, you get all the BS software that slows down your boot time. All that junk also clutters your drive. If you don't want it, why would you buy it?

If you have problems, your tech can fix it right away and usually for nothing or very little.

He will be available to advise you with all aspects of your computer use.
It's nice to have a real person answer the phone and quickly help you.

The last time I bought an off the shelf computer (IBM PC Junior) was in the early 1980's. Since then, every computer I've owned was custom made for me and it has been worth it.]]>Aug 6th 2008 7:19AMhttp://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/http://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/

"@all the people that said Mac are more expensive

someone earlier mention the best thing is to build your own PC. I second that. I have configure a lot of PC and i see that the price of using top of the line parts make a PC just as expensive."

This is a bold faced lie.

Just as with ANY endeavor, if you look hard enough for evidence of anything, you can probably find it.

The bottom line is that Every single POSSIBLE configuration of the Mac Mini and the I-Mac can be duplicated bye Dell, even down to having either literally identical or unarguably better components, for equal or less money.

And the only reason that the Mac Pro dodges the bullet is the 8 cores.

Basically in a fair straight forward fight Macs could never compete with PCs

So they do what any smart business would do, and they offer things like Novelty smallness, Built in monitors, and 8 gimmicky cores.]]>Sep 9th 2008 11:00PMhttp://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/http://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/
You said my statement is a bold face lie. Yet i provide proof that anyone can look up. You can't can even prove me wrong.

I have builded over 500 of PCs more then Macs. I just recently started with Mac Pros.

I didn't lie about anything. As far as the Mac mini and the imac. Those are gimmicks...you are correct about that. But other brands like Sony and Acer especially HP started to do the same and they are worth just s much. Plus they all have the same flaw. They are not upgradeable.
So what's your point.

You see the difference between you and me. I can appreciate a great machine and great design. No matter the platform it runs.

You are hung up on cost. Am more concern about quality. And to get quality computers no matter if it runs Windows or OS X it's gonna cost ya. Period.

If you want to continue to argue the point am making. This time provide evidence to prove me wrong. Goodness...and am for PC. What a jerk.]]>Sep 11th 2008 2:47AMhttp://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/http://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/
ummm, Dell has a machine with Dual Quad Core. I think HP and Gateway has that option too. Am not sure. I can even built a Dual Quad Core machine myself. Still wouldn't be any cheaper then a Mac Pro. Well, at least the graphic card for Windows would be a lot cheaper.]]>Sep 11th 2008 3:20AMhttp://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/http://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/Aug 6th 2008 7:28AMhttp://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/http://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/Aug 10th 2008 2:17PMhttp://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/http://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/They also didn't say anything about Virtual PC which is already installed on this old Mac PowerBook G4 that I got on e-bay 3 or 4 years ago ($700) and it is still doing fine and there are so many programs installed on it when I got it that I don't even know half of them.
Only real "complaint" is one that they mentioned and that is with moving your iTunes around (of course if I had read the instructions it might have been easier).

PS -- I LOVE MY MAC
]]>Sep 2nd 2008 1:40PMhttp://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/http://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/Carrara
Cheetah3D
Cinema 4D
Kinemac
LightWave 3D
Maya

to name a few of the main "industry" ones. Also may i remind you that the Lords of the Ring movies' 3D cgi was created all with the Mac Pros using Maya and they used cheaper PCs to process the rendering. Not to mention some of the worlds top 3D studios uses Macs.

So to write and say that, "mac actually doesnt even produce a program for that end of content creating" is a very ignorant thing to say. Especially for a 3D artist.


@all the people that said Mac are more expensive

someone earlier mention the best thing is to build your own PC. I second that. I have configure a lot of PC and i see that the price of using top of the line parts make a PC just as expensive. So really in the end, it;s not the the machine that makes the difference. It's which OS you prefer.

Kinda like cake. You may just like plain cake or you may just like Chocolate cake. Or you may like both. Either way, they are both cakes.


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Finish the article. It mentions that in the end. The only thing I disagree with it, web developers prefer windows based machines. It's an industry standard for web.]]>Sep 9th 2008 8:48AMhttp://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/http://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/Aug 6th 2008 7:28AMhttp://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/http://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/Aug 6th 2008 8:13AMhttp://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/http://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/Aug 10th 2008 2:11PMhttp://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/http://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/
And even if you can run Windows on a Mac, they're still worthless for gaming. The highest end gaming graphics card for a mac is like an 8800GT, and they're extremely expensive... and, the average mac will have just an onboard graphics card....]]>Sep 10th 2008 8:02PMhttp://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/http://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/
Don't even get me started on the whole media issue.

I'm a PC user. I've used Macs. This review bites the big one. Dedicated PC users should not play with a Mac for a day and claim they can rate the pros and cons of each machine.

"Still, it sure beats the non-stop-barrage of "Error" messages and freeze-ups you get periodically on the average Windows-based machine." Come on... non-stop-barrage and periodically? Which is it?

PC users - just check it out for yourself. Find access to a Mac and experience it. Macs are like heaven - PCs, well, you know what they're like.]]>Aug 6th 2008 7:59AMhttp://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/http://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/
The problem is that Macs can’t/won’t ever be able to compete with PCs in sheer terms of price per component. There for the ONLY was for Mac to survive is to offer certain "conveniences" that they hope that their competitors will be unable to offer. The problem is that if need these conveniences, then you can benefit from the Mac business strategy, but if not, you just get screwed.

For example, low end Macs are dismally over priced and could never compete with PCs. Mac does not offer a computer for less than $600 (which of course comes with absolutely nothing) while Dell has a computer (with a 22in monitor) for 350. So if all you need is e-mail and word processing, there is literally no possible way to ever justify the purchase of a Mac.

However, in accordance with the Mac business strategy, the 600 Mac offers something you get from a PC; The Mac is 6.5in square and only 2 in tall. So, if you absolutely NEED a computer that is the size of a mug of coffee AND you don't mind that it is literally 2X more expensive than an equally equipped PC, then the Mac mini is for you. However, if this is not the case, then buying a Mac mini FORCES you to waste money.

Similarly, the i-Mac has a built in monitor, something that they feel that their competators cannot offer. So if you don't own a monitor (there is no reason why this should ever be the case) then the i-Mac would be good for you (again assuming your money grows on trees and you don't want an inarguably better machine for less from dell). I however own a monitor meaning, and I understand to concept of money, so an i-Mac would be a colossal waste of money for me.

So basically if my next computer were a Mac I would have no option but to get the Mac pro, which starts at $2500. Apart from being more than I will ever be able to spend on computer, the purchase of a Mac pro would a laughably inefficient expenditure of money considering that fact that for $2500 I could get a handedly better machine from Dell, or better yet, just put one together from scratch.

If you know absolute nothing about computers, and you are too old or too stupid to learn, and you are too stupid/ Don’t care to make any of your own choices/decisions, and you are willing to shell out big bucks for an idiot proof machine that has all the decisions and the required thinking built right in, and is "ready to go out of the box" then Mac might just be for you.

But you can keep your expensive TV dinner; I would rather cook for myself. I rather enjoy it and there much better things for me to blow my money on.
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"The problem is that Macs can’t/won’t ever be able to compete with PCs in sheer terms of price per component."

This statement is very untrue. IN reality if you built a PC with the same exact top of the line components as a Mac Pro...a PC would run $50 to $100 more. I know because I have built both a PC and Mac systems for work.

Also comparing a Dell to a Mac is like comparing a gourmet meal to a tv dinner. Dell is so cheap because they use the cheapest parts they can find. A Mac mini has more high end tech then a Dell under $600. And I consider a Mac Mini pretty lame.

Here is a good example using same quality components and same config.

A Basic Mac Pro for $2299.00
One 16x SuperDrive
320GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
2GB (2 x 1GB)
Apple Keyboard (English) + User's Guide
Accessory kit
One 2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon (quad-core)
Apple Mighty Mouse
ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256MB (Two dual-link DVI)


Now a Dell with the same config. $3,161
Quad Core Intel® Xeon® Processor E5430 (2.83GHz,2X6M L2,1333
2GB, DDR2 SDRAM FBD Memory, 667MHz
Enhanced USB Multimedia, 8 Hot Keys
256MB PCIe x16 nVidia Quadro FX570, Dual Monitor DVI Capable
16X DVD-ROM with Cyberlink Power DVD
New Dell USB Optical Mouse with scroll, All Black Design
320GB SATA 3.0Gb/s,7200 RPM Hard Drive with 8MB DataBurst Cache

Looks like the Dell is a bit more then the basic Mac Pro. You can try even using cheaper low end parts the price difference will not be by much. Actually, Dell uses the cheap parts to begin with LOL.


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Well just looking on Newegg, a E5430 is $485, just some random motherboard by Asus is $470, 2GB of FB RAM is about $120 (bought some recently), a DVD burner is ]]>Sep 27th 2008 11:47PMhttp://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/http://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc-14/Im with you all the way....i just have a few improvements...
Macs cost considerably more than PCs and Have significantly fewer hardware configuration options. Comparing Mac and PCs is like comparing a home cooked meal to a TV dinner.



So, if you absolutely NEED a computer that is the size of a mug of coffee
Dell studio desktops start at around $450 and are a little bigger than the Mac mini

Similarly, the i-Mac has a built in monitor, something that they feel that their competators cannot offer.
Two words: HP Touchsmart

get the Mac pro, which starts at $2500.
For that price....you could get a bunch of gaming rigs including:
HP Blackbird, and a more than half of the Alienware line.

Any OS that youve been using for a long time will be the easiest to use.
OSX is based off of Unix...a Linux distro....which is exactly what OSX looks like. Get real apple fan boys....

But you can keep your expensive TV dinner; I would rather cook for myself. I rather enjoy it and there much better things for me to blow my money on.]]>Oct 27th 2008 9:34PM