Student's Snow-Day Question Causes Internet Brouhaha
The ordeal started when Devraj "Dave" S. Kori, a senior at Lake Braddock Secondary School, called Dean at his listed home phone number to find out why he had not closed the schools after three inches of snow fell in the area. Kori left his name and number on the Tistadts' answering machine. Later that day, Candy returned the call and left a furious minute-long tirade on the boy's cell phone.
"How dare you call us at home! If you have a problem with going to school, you do not call somebody's house and complain about it," she yelled. At some point, Candy refers to students in general as "snotty-nosed little brats," and towards the end of her outburst shouts, "Get over it, kid, and go to school!"
Kori was taken aback by the anger and combative tone taken by Mrs. Tisradt and decided to share it with the Internet public by posting the audio of the message -- along with Dean Tistadt's home and work numbers -- on Facebook and YouTube.
The posting has touched off all sorts of debates over whether Kori's actions constituted harassment, if Candy Tistadt overstepped her bounds, and what is considered a polite and reasonable request for information. Within a day, the clip had received hundreds of hits online. It then made its way onto the local nightly news, and, as of today, had gotten over 20,000 listeners on YouTube.
Kori, a member of his school's debate team, said he was not intending to harass. He says that he had attempted to reach Dean Tistadt at his work number and thought he had a basic right to petition a public official for more information about an issue that affected him and his fellow students. He says the disagreement probably stems from a generation gap "People in my generation view privacy differently. We are the cell phone generation. We are used to being reached at all times," said Kori. Paul Regnier, Fairfax County Schools' spokesman, retorted that the conflict was more likely the result of a "civility gap."
Needless to say, the incident has resulted in countless prank phone calls to the Tistadts and much embarrassment for Candy.
Our take -- Kori probably shouldn't have called the Tistadts' home line, but Candy's minute -long rant was certainly unwarranted. Perhaps next time she'll think twice before leaving a hostile message and try to explain to the student that calling Dean Tistadt at home is unacceptable in a calm, level-headed manner.
From Washington Post
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Subscribe to commentsJoyJan 28th 2008 2:29PM
I have to wonder how many of the people posting their indignation over David Kori recording and posting Candy's rant have even bothered to read the articles. She recorded the message on someone else’s system. He did not record the message. That is a little more than implied consent to record. IF she had any expectation of privacy leaving a message for a kid she is even more of an idiot. Kids today live their lives on line.
And jumping on the kid for bad manners? If this is how the school authorities (since Candy work in the school administration too) respond to a single call made during business hours and leaving your contact info, then lets hope all those kids do not learn their manners from the adult example she set.
Keeping in mind there were two parties to this and one was a kid and the other a supposed adult, the adult has a lot more to answer for. A reasonable response asking him to direct his call to the office number would have taught the kid something about boundaries and left nothing to post on-line. Shame on her for treating the kids she and her husband make their living off of that way. She needs to take some anger management courses and to paraphrase her “GET OVER HERSELF!”
InfiniteStealthJan 25th 2008 7:15AM
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ChrisJan 25th 2008 9:03AM
First..Read the article and make sure you understand it before you comment.
Second..He did not call the principal. He called Dean Tistadt's HOME. Dean is the Chief Operating Officer for Fairfax County school system. WOW! That is the first line of the article. Maybe some of these posters need to go back to school and learn to READ. That is one of the problems with this generation...video. No one reads the written word anymore. "I'll watch a video on the computer". READ, READ, READ.
Third........GOOOOO CANDY!!!!!
He is a Senior, which means he's been in school for more than a day. Living in an area where it does snow, he HAS to have seen it before that day. If the school district didn't close the school, then he NEEDS TO TAKE HIS BEHIND TO SCHOOL!! I probably would have done the same thing as Candy. And it's probably not the first time they have received calls like this at home. This generation is all about me and instant gratification. Remember before computers?? When you actually had to read the newspaper or watch the news to get the weather??????? Oh My God, what a concept!! I'm sure the school district has a website. I'll even bet they post closures on there. Time and effort looking up numbers, he could have looked at the site, or even, , gone to Weather.com (you know, The Weather Channel).
Just because a number is listed DOES NOT give him the right to call. RESPECT. Having and using a phone is a privilege, not a right.
That is why her husband has a work number. In another article about this, it said he tried to reach him at his office, but couldn't. I'd be interested in hearing what kind of message he left on their home phone.
I'm confused....How early was he calling that he couldn't get this man at his office???? Most district empolyees (here) aren't in their offices until after school is in session.
Just because her husband works for the District DOES NOT give this KID the right to call his HOME!! His parents should have called. The district, not someone's home. If it was that big a deal, they could have kept him home. DUH! He took the time and effort to look up this man's home number. Time and effort he could have used to take his butt to school. For those people that say she should apologize to him, what about his childish and petty action of posting it and the HOME and work numbers on the internet?!?!?!?!?!?!? HE should apologize to her!!! And his comment "People in my generation view privacy differently. We are the cell phone generation. We are used to being reached at all times". Uh, no! Privacy is privacy no matter how you look at it. Something his parents neglected to teach him. Among a few other things. I agree with some of the postings. Kids today feel "entitled" to things. NOT! He left a message on their house phone. What fricking time of the morning did he call that she didn't answer his call?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? No respect! Then, she had to leave a message on his cell phone. He didn't answer. Again, no respect. Before you get your panties in a bunch, he said it, "We are the cell phone generation", talking, texting, etc. Punk couldn't answer the damn phone?!?!?! No respect. Granted, I tell my kids, if you don't recognize the number in caller ID, don't answer it. But that is on my house phone! And I can promise you, my kids would NEVER do what this kid did. That is my job as the PARENT!! But he's crying about 3 fricking inches!?!?!?!?!? 3 INCHES??????? Has he never seen snow before??? Have they shut down school before for 3 inches??? WHERE ARE HIS PARENTS????????????????????????????
If his parents didn't make him stay home, then either they felt it wasn't enough to warrant staying home, or they are oblivious to what is going on around them and with their child. Maybe they need to pull their heads out of someone's a$$. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
And to all those that think it is up to the school and teachers to teach your children manners, respect, etc..........pull your head out of your a$$. That is your job as a PARENT!!! School is not a babysitter for your spawn.
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RoxieJan 25th 2008 4:00PM
No this woman is a nut, I sent her an Email and I was not rude I just said I thought she should have conducted her self a little better. Well she wrote back and was just as mean and rude to me as she was to her son. And I am a adult with grown kids that have kids in School. Also this nut job works at a Elementary School I sure hoe she dose not treat the kids there like she treated this young man.
RoxieJan 25th 2008 4:03PM
OOPS not her son the boy who called.
DebJan 25th 2008 4:54PM
I too belive there are no winners here. It scares me that her husband is the Dean of Students, is this how they view kids at their home?? I don't belive that the student should have called the home, but anything is possible, maybe have an unlisted number if your so concerned about your privacy. Ranting and raving like that just shows how mature you are. We learn from observation, what would a child observe from this situation?
DLRJan 25th 2008 5:26PM
I wish I had enough guts to call our superintendent and ask why there is not a delay sometimes (or a snow day called). When you live out in the country the roads can become very treacherous and sometimes I don't think they are taken seriously enough. There are too many kids lives as stake when they are on a school bus and they should not be put in the position of risking their lives just so they don't miss a few hours of school. The guy had a listed number so he is fair game. His wife should have let him handle it. The kid has every right to ask why and even complain if he wants to. Big deal everyone, get over it. (p.s. I think teachers are the biggest whiners there are. If you don't like your job, quit! Teach our kids math, science, social studies, english, and foreign language. I don't want you wasting school hours and tax dollars on manners and birth control and racial issues, etc. I want my kids getting the fundamentals of an academic education so they can go to college and be ready for it. That's your job.)
Lauren GlennJan 28th 2008 11:42PM
I would NEVER had called the Dean or Superintendent on his/her home phone and complain. Just because you can call him and feel that you're just expressing your mind as a child, you have to accept that this was the decision and whether you like it or not, you have to go to school. You don't have to like it, but that's what life is. Complain all you want and call the school board or some OFFICIAL work entity and let them dismiss you, but to call that person at home and justify it that you're the "cell phone" generation, is absurd.
The question here is, where are the parents in this equation? If I EVER did that and called the official at his home, I would be disciplined and it wouldn't be tolerated.
The fact that the wife called back hostile and essentially threatened the child was even worse judgement. It's a child. You're supposed to be an adult. Let it go. He called and complained. He shouldn't have called you on your home phone, but be an adult.... seriously.
It's not a generation gap. It's a matter of not showing respect to authority whether you believe they deserve it or not. He posted their home phone number on the internet. Way over the line regardless of the actions that led to it.
Two wrongs don't make a right. The fact that there aren't more important things to report on in the world tells me that Cindi should post his home phone number on the internet if she even knows how to work it. Although, he's part of the "cell phone" generation and has a different view on privacy.... Anyone care to post HIS phone number on the internet? (not that I'm condoning it.... but he did seem like he wouldn't have a problem with it)
MaxineJan 26th 2008 8:29AM
I am very surprised at some of the comments that have been posted. My only question is, Does Mr. Tistadt clock in and clock out for the day or is he salaried? If he's salaried, then part of the job is being "on-call". He is nothing more than a School Manager then. I am a Manager at a rather large hotel. No matter what time, day or night, my phone could ring. It could be something as simple as a night auditor not knowing how to fix a flapper on a toilet to a computer crash on a Sunday. Comes with the territory. My guests and my associates pay my salary. And, when all is said and done, when a problem is solved it gives me a sense of accomplishment as well. My sympathy is with Mr. Tistadt and his wife. I know how hard it can be. Nothing beats a 3am call about an overflowing toilet and a guest with wet feet...but, I would never speak to someone as rudely as she spoke to that student. Nor would I allow my husband to return a phone call for me. In my long tenure at the hotel I have been cursed at, screamed at, spit upon, and had various objects either kicked at me or thrown at me...the only thing I can control is how I react in that situation. She did a poor job at playing secretary for her husband, and the only person she has to blame is herself.
Whatever the question is, day or night, it is a Manager's responsibility to, at the very least, be civil. There were other ways to handle the waves of phone calls and messages that were apparently descending on their household.
bluesdogJan 27th 2008 1:51PM
sounds like a typical entitled b-i-t-c-h.
she is just like the kid- spoiled rotten.
a case of spoiled kid steps on the toes of an adult raised the same way. we are headed for one rotten world, as generations of entitled, spoiled, litigious people now reproduce, geometrically multplying.
I quit teaching,because of the spoiled kids and their rotten entitled parents.
marinaJan 28th 2008 1:05PM
as long as the dean's house is on the phone directory, then it is public just like everyone else's. being a dean does not make him king with a "private" house number. and no one can say the boy was being rude unless you heard his messsage. he asked a simple question, why school hadn't closed. in some places like where i live, 3 inches would have been enough to close schools. the woman was way out of line in being that rude. why should the kid have to give an apology. kids these days are sometimes disrespectful, but i wouldnt expect that from an adult. just because she is his elder does not give her the right to be that rude to a boy, and not even apologize. i know i wouldn't want ANYONE speaking to my kids like that
MichaelJul 25th 2008 4:05AM
I believe it's funny that most of the comments that I've read talk about how 'this generation of kids' don't show enough respect to their elders and other such nonsense. I don't know if you realize it or not, but odds are your parents generation thought the same of your generation. The difference is that your parents didn't have the internet to complain about it. Besides, assuming any large group of people all act the same is a ridiculous notion and, at least in my opinion, is a sign of ignorance. It's stereotyping and it needs to stop. I know that many of you would be offended if you read a comment about how all members of a particular race act a certain way, so you shouldn't go posting something about how all members of a particular generation act a certain way either. It's disrespectful, which is exactly what you're complaining about in the first place. I'll admit that many members of my generation tend to be rude and disrespectful, but I know many adults who are the same way.