Student's Snow-Day Question Causes Internet Brouhaha
The ordeal started when Devraj "Dave" S. Kori, a senior at Lake Braddock Secondary School, called Dean at his listed home phone number to find out why he had not closed the schools after three inches of snow fell in the area. Kori left his name and number on the Tistadts' answering machine. Later that day, Candy returned the call and left a furious minute-long tirade on the boy's cell phone.
"How dare you call us at home! If you have a problem with going to school, you do not call somebody's house and complain about it," she yelled. At some point, Candy refers to students in general as "snotty-nosed little brats," and towards the end of her outburst shouts, "Get over it, kid, and go to school!"
Kori was taken aback by the anger and combative tone taken by Mrs. Tisradt and decided to share it with the Internet public by posting the audio of the message -- along with Dean Tistadt's home and work numbers -- on Facebook and YouTube.
The posting has touched off all sorts of debates over whether Kori's actions constituted harassment, if Candy Tistadt overstepped her bounds, and what is considered a polite and reasonable request for information. Within a day, the clip had received hundreds of hits online. It then made its way onto the local nightly news, and, as of today, had gotten over 20,000 listeners on YouTube.
Kori, a member of his school's debate team, said he was not intending to harass. He says that he had attempted to reach Dean Tistadt at his work number and thought he had a basic right to petition a public official for more information about an issue that affected him and his fellow students. He says the disagreement probably stems from a generation gap "People in my generation view privacy differently. We are the cell phone generation. We are used to being reached at all times," said Kori. Paul Regnier, Fairfax County Schools' spokesman, retorted that the conflict was more likely the result of a "civility gap."
Needless to say, the incident has resulted in countless prank phone calls to the Tistadts and much embarrassment for Candy.
Our take -- Kori probably shouldn't have called the Tistadts' home line, but Candy's minute -long rant was certainly unwarranted. Perhaps next time she'll think twice before leaving a hostile message and try to explain to the student that calling Dean Tistadt at home is unacceptable in a calm, level-headed manner.
From Washington Post
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Comments
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Subscribe to commentsDavid HaddockJan 23rd 2008 9:10PM
I see no winners here. A bunch of bad behavior regardless of generation. Do they normally shut schools down in Virginia if it snows? Calling a personal residence was unwarranted...the tirade and namecalling was unwarranted...making a mockery of this person on the internet is unwarranted. Who wins? I guess the voyeurs getting their jollies at someone else's expense.
CatherineJan 23rd 2008 10:18PM
I think this kid should be suspended at the very least. He is disrespectful on so many levels. Who does he think he is? I am sick of kids today. They are rude, combative, and are held to low standards of behavior. If I were his mother, he would be terrified right about now.
The PariahJul 24th 2008 11:47PM
Wow I love how all of you just attack the kid....
Granted he's a brat who shouldn't of made the phone call in the first place or thrown the phone number everywhere on the internet, but for her to yell at a student in the manner that she did was uncalled for. If your number has been given to the students of your school then you have to expect some unnecessary phone calls. To take something like this (The kid's call) and take it as a personal attack is childish in its own right and reflects poorly upon her as well as the entire household.
And to Catherine yes we are rude, combative, and will fight you (When I say you I mean unreasonable adults, not to say that all adults are.) at every turn, the fact that you cannot differentiate and have ended up pooling kids together as one general and repulsive entity is, in my opinion rude, combative, and of a low standard of behavior.
The Pariah,
Age 16
CharlesJan 23rd 2008 11:55PM
He's a punk; acting so innocent ("Who me? I just wanted to ask a question.") I hope he gets drummed out of the school. I would bet that he is and has been an A-1 troublemaker at school all the way back to junior high.
karenJan 24th 2008 5:34AM
The kid was wrong. I'd scream at him too. Problem in this country is that our kids do not spend enough time in school...too many vacations... and when they are there no one teaches them basic manners and courtesy. Go to school kid, try to learn something. I hope your parents take away your cell phone
nicole olearyJan 24th 2008 5:49AM
I cannot believe that nobody here is discussing the message left by an ADULT to a CHILD. Children will make mistakes, probably due to a huge lack of experience or moral guidance, maybe even both. What is the excuse of an adult who is married to someone with the job that mostly exists for the guidance of minors? Is this what you want your children to learn? The person who needs to grow up and go to school is this woman.
MomJan 24th 2008 6:20AM
This woman needs some lessons in anger management. Does her husband still have a job?
lindaJan 25th 2008 5:09AM
Yes, the child shouldn't have called the private telephone number. However; to yell at someone like that was totally uncalled for. But, I bet you this woman learned her lesson. I also smell a law suit coming out of this one. People need to calm down. Go to www.emarital.com and maybe you can find someone to help you relax.
stevenJan 24th 2008 6:46AM
I think she should not have yelled back, if she thinks of kids as being so low then that should not her job. Also, why do some people hate kids, i dont understand that, adults do sometimes bad things, kids dont hate adults....
angieJan 24th 2008 6:48AM
I cant believe they took this off, AOL you should remove it also if its nolonger available to watch, why would they remove it anyways? Is the internet getting WEAK?
sandraJan 24th 2008 6:59AM
I don't believe this kid. I have a 16 year old...most of the kids in her groups of friends NEVER talk on the cell phone...they text and IM one another. My concern is that they will all grow up and not be able to converse.
While the woman was clearly agitated....we don't know what message the kid left. I am curious about that - further it was disrespectful of him to call the guys home and intrude on his family.
The kid should be suspended and his parents should teach him to respect his elders.
DougJan 24th 2008 7:04AM
I live in Springfield, VA (Fairfax County). I for one completely understand the woman's frustration. There is a real sense of entitlement in this county when the first snowflake falls.
I grew up in Kansas and I dare say the winters there are harsher than those in Virginia. We had no school bus system. It was your responsibility to get to school.
In the time I was there, grades 4-high school and 1 year of community college, school was only closed one day. That particular storm caused 20 foot drifts on the side of houses.
So, I second the motion. Kid, shut up and get on the bus!
shannonJan 24th 2008 7:09AM
I love how people comment about how no one at school teaches kids manners. Well, guess what, teachers should only have to reinforce what the kids learn at home, and parents are teaching there kids to feel entitled to everything and instilling them with an, "I don't take crap from anybody" attitude. When teachers do try and teach kids manners, respect for themselves and others, and how to live a life fit for society, they get into trouble because they are violating someone's civil rights. You know what, there are some very basic ways of living that have nothing to do with culture or religion or anything else. I used to be a teacher but I had to get out. Not only do they get a bum rap, but they get no support. If people think that kids should be in school more then you are going to have to put your money where your mouth is because teachers will need to be paid more. They do not make enough money and saying that it's easy because the have all of the vacations is a grave injustice to those that give their heart and soul to education your children only to be grossly under appreciated. FYI, on their "vacations," teachers are attending more schooling and classes to maintain their certification. They work second jobs so they can pay the bills. They advise student groups through the summer and coach and tutor their students. If you think that being a teacher is easy or great just because of the vacations then I recommend you volunteer in a school setting for a few weeks straight and see what they have to put up with on a daily basis. And, you know what, talk to a teacher, and see how much they owe in student loans from undergrad and how much they have to take out for continuing certification.
jaz8300Jan 24th 2008 7:13AM
I agree with the comment that kids will be kids. It was my understanding that the young man was respectful in his request. I feel the he should have waited till the principal was at school to obtain this information. Having said that, shame on this woman. She is the adult here and should definitely know better. The fact that it's all over the news and internet should be a lesson to us all. Any one of us could easily end up on YouTube and the evening news. I agree with the other comment regarding there being no winners here. I hope the parents explain to the young man as to where he went wrong and I hope the woman is big enough to extend an apology.
SusanJan 24th 2008 7:26AM
I think Mrs. Tistadt was well within her rights to blast the kid for calling her home. Apparently this was not the first such call these people had gotten - some even in the middle of the night. As a former high school teacher, I can tell you that it's disgusting the feeling that teens have today re: their "rights". When I was a teen it would never have crossed my mind to call the CEO of the county to complain about ANY policy; that would have been up to my parents. And they sure as h--- wouldn't have called anyone at HOME. Yeah, teens today are more savvy than we were, but they are still c-h-i-l-d-r-e-n. It's all about them and what they have the "right" to do; no wonder our society is so eff'd. I hope the Tistandts stay strong.
MaddieJan 24th 2008 7:53AM
I agree the child should not have called a private residance.. However Candy had NO right to call and leave such a horriable message. She needs to learn manners and respect.. I bet that child's parents taxes pays for that mans salery.. Candy you need to learn retraint and manners.
Maddie
Ann R.Jan 24th 2008 7:30AM
Freakin go to school. 3 inches - what a wuss. Obviously this kid has no idea what it is to live in the western part of the country. You get that much snow in Utah - you go to school. School is not closed for snow! It amazes me how many "snow days" are given for so little snow in the midwest and beyond.
CearralynJan 24th 2008 7:31AM
You all seem to be forgetting that the phone number was LISTED..it was NOT private. That kid was NOT out of line calling to see why school wasn't cancelled. That is what a phone is FOR!! The nasty wife was completely out of line with her response and she over-reacted! All of you who think this kid was wrong are wrong, and
I think the woman owes that kid a public apology. She should be ashamed of herself, and if she is embarrassed right now..GOOD!! By the way, I am not a kid...I am a grandmother with several grandchildren in their teens.
AngelinaJan 24th 2008 9:06AM
This message is a response to Shannon. I am 33 yrs old and when I was going to school, the teachers at that time were caring and did everything they had to do for their kids. The teachers were in contact with the parent if the child was unruly in class, is homework wasn't being done, etc. Nowadays, the teachers don't do anything in class except their lesson plan. They don't want to be bothered. They want robot kids who come in sit down and do their work. But they forget kids are kids and some kids have their problems. If the teacher is not communicating with the parent cause he/she don't want to be bothered, then is the parent supposed to be psychic?? I have two children in school one is level headed, a decent student who never gets into trouble and then there is my other son. Who is hyper, likes to chit chat in class and such. No matter how many times I ask the teachers to contact me the same day of the occurrence, they won't. Then at parent teacher conference they get upset because I'm not pyshic enough to know what is going on in their classroom.
As for this article. I don't see why the wife got all upset? Maybe she was having a bad morning. Maybe she didn't get any the night before. Maybe she was pmsing. Who knows. The kid was only trying to do what every kids wants to do......have a snow day. Maybe he was wrong to call the home. But really it's not necessary to string him up. Hope everybody has a great day
SandiJan 24th 2008 7:34AM
I graduated from high school 34 years ago and even back then principals weren't stupid enough to list their numbers in the phone book. The kid had a legitimate question and Candy is the one that needs to learn a few things. At the very least she's incredibly naive, but more likely, she strikes me as arrogantly stupid.